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Altman committee aka advancement who the principal folks are so as i mentioned the being the council committee chair each district has a chair as well Delaware Rivers Jim Steinberg Duchess's Marcia Feeny heritage is sherry Rocco Rockland is Dave ridged and our staff advisor is Kris Hopkins the other names on this slide are basically those involved with the Eagle processing either scheduling or reviewing sitting on the boards of themselves along with a lot of other folks these names may change from time to time but essentially on the Hudson Valley scouting org webpage under youth development you will be able to find the names of the current chairs and and others associated with the youth development committee okay all right so look for the seedings presentation we have two presenters the first one will be a Peter dally who is the Duchess district eagle advancement chair he participates on the council advancement committee in de vrij who is the Rockland district advancement committee chair and between then they will go through the material and at the end you know we will cover any general questions that come in as questions may be submitted online if I can answer them I I will certainly try to do that it will appear that it's coming from chris hopkins but i'm actually sitting in in the organizers chair this evening and just by the way this presentation deck is being recorded and we will also have the deck up on the council advancement the web pages in the next couple of days so for those that would like to review the material at that time you would be able to do that so without further ado I'd like to pass it over to Peter dally thank you done hello everyone as it says it's a time of change and we're working on a presumption that you folks are used to using or involved with using the 2012 printing and you can identify what printing you use and by looking on that Peck page and we're saying let him continue scout continue to use that 2012 version if he's been working in it okay I mean we recognized that they don't just picked it up one night bring it into the troop get it approved and then appear before the district it doesn't happen SS and on the other hand there is a new version out the final plan and the front raising application and the report sections of that may offer him some advantages because this is both a paper document if you would if you send it to your printer but it's also an electronic document there's programming in behind what you're looking at and whether you can add things or delete things or expand boxes and other things like that or what that programming deals with and so that can be advantages for having the Scout move to the new stuff as he goes along if he's using the 2 2012 printing there is a separate document called navigating the Eagle Scout service project which is information for project beneficiaries just as it says it's it's two pages long and it tells the beneficiary what scouting expects of the beneficiary and what...